. >> ken olsen, westport, connecticut. my favorite senator. >> that's why colony. >> i think a couple of lessons have been learned of the last ten years, and maybe even the last five years, and not the least of which is elections dummy democracy. i think i wondered if there are people in this world that just don't want democracy. and is that necessarily a bad thing in particular parts of the world? and how we in the u.s. respond to that if that -- if what i posture as possible. >> well, it's great to see. so bitterly. >> guest: if from what i have observed, people do want democracy. they may settle land with dictatorship for a while, but ultimately there is a natural and human yearning for freedom and an opportunity, and economic agenda the. john mccain to egypt and tunisia within a month after the arab spring uprisings. i was quite fascinated. we talked to the people that led both of those revolutions. and one. that struck me was that they were motivated as much by a feeling of economic outrage as they work by their desir